![]() Users that aren't actively working on an implementation in a desktop unfortunately don't have any place in this discussion, practically they just have nothing meaningful to contribute. So they focus only on the small subset of things that every desktop agrees on. Getting into that is a lose-lose proposition. The Wayland developers do this because they absolutely do not want to be involved in the perpetual fights between desktops. That is, if IBM doesn't decide to throw a bigger wrench at the problem. X has always had a lot of paid people contributing to it. This is not a thing that will move forward without full-time workers. ![]() I really wish some other non-Gnome-favoring company would find a reason to dump a lot more money into Wayland and help move it forward in the not-only-gnome-favorable path. The landscape is extremely fragmented and everybody who is not on the Gnome garden will suffer a lot. Red Hat is one of the main contributors, and they only seem to care about Gnome working on Wayland (as much as I don't like their direction, I can't really blame them for following it, it just sucks that I don't like the product they're developing). I really want to see Wayland move forward and succeed, but there are so few companies injecting money on it, they get to dictate how things move. And, as much as I hate to say it, I believe it will still not be omnipresent in the Linux desktop. ![]() By the time GTK5 arrives Wayland will probably be old enough to drive or maybe even drink in the US. ![]()
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